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Apologies. With good handloads the cartridge comes very close to 7mm Remington Magnum performance--and does it in a shorter barrel while burning a whole lot less powder. 01 October 2011, 00:40. My favorite rifle is a 7x57. I've got a rifle hunt planned for this fall in CO and need to find some factory ammo that shoots well out of my gun. If I were you I would load it with Hornady GMX/Barnes X and not worry that you are under gunned or need a 7 mm. ! 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. The 7x57 was a staple among those who lived in colonial Africa; the late Finn Aagaard related the story of the family’s 7x57 having a barrel that was shot out on game, not targets. Bolt Action Rifles Sponsored by Camera Land.280 vs. 7x57 . Long before it was used in the war it was the standard hunting rifle of many farmers. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. Jump to Latest Follow 280 Remington. The result: a necked neck. 100 yard Ballistic Gel testing a 140gn Core-Lokt bullet. vs. .300 Wby. Introduced in 1925, the .270 is a necked-down .30-06 that holds .277 diameter bullets. Alas, like the 7x57 it suffers somewhat from a low maximum breech pressure, 56,000 psi. So, like the 7x57, the .280 Remington is at its best as a handloader's cartridge. I need the boards input 7x57 Improved (40 degree) Vs standard 280 Remington. We've got you covered.• .300 Win. Mag. They also need less powder … … Mag. The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. Over 2900fps with a 140 accubond. In the 7mm bore diameter, these are both middle of the road choices, giving the shooter enough horsepower to get the job done, yet both are usually easy enough on the shoulder to allow for accurate shot placement. Well, I run a .280 with 139s/140s at 3100-3150. Reactions: WVgoodguy22. Largest internet ammo dealer shows 12 options for 7x57 loaded ammunition and 6 options in stock. March 20, 2020. I can't say anything about the .270 Winchester that hasn't already been written unless I lie. 01 October 2011, 00:40. 7mm Rem Ultra Mag. I find no bad or negative comments written on either cartridge. The Contestants. Can run 280/160's at 3,000 fps when taken to AI pressure level. Wow, what great bullet. Our modern bullets have done nothing but help the 19th century cartridge, making it even more effective than it was in the 1890s. Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. Personally I don't have any experience with 7x57 on elk. HD . Introduced in 1925, the .270 is a necked-down .30-06 that holds .277 diameter bullets. A modern rifle in good condition being the only rider. Killing a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. They share the same case head diameter, and though the Springfield case is longer, there is no denying the resemblance. However, many gunwriters and hunters alike quietly went about loving the way the .280 Remington performed. SAAMI spec pressure is higher with the 270 65KPSI vs 60KPSI for the 280. My great room is littered with reloading manuals, articles ECT. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. 7mm Rem Mag. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. Top . I think the 30-06 would be a better bet. Same with a 7-08 vs a 270 or 280. Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . Posted: Tue … Of course you are right on the money. The switch would later be made to the 139-grain spitzer bullet at a much higher velocity, though the heavier bullet—and the Mauser rifle—made the 7x57mm Mauser’s reputation in the hunting fields. With slower powders the on paper data suggest thats possible at 65Kpsi. (In the case of the 7x57, also 175 grain bullets.) vs. .300 Win. I’m talking 7mm-08 vs. .308; .280 Rem. That said, the 7x57mm Mauser can be a very versatile cartridge as well. 100 yard Ballistic Gel testing a 140gn Core-Lokt bullet. Durant toute la durée du confinement, nous expédions normalement vos commandes. Exemples, une 7mm-08 contre .308, une .280 Rem. If hunting CXP2 game is your primary consideration, these four are exemplary cartridges, regardless of COL. Re: 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. EVOSTRIKE VS TIPSTRIKE in ballistic gelatin Test: Which hunting bullet suits you? I used to shoot the 170 gr. Sing it Bob. The 7x57 is one of my favorite Bushveld calibers but might be a bit to slow if you planning to take some of long shots at game. Which of these gets the nod? versus une .30-06, une 7mm STW versus une .300 Wby ou encore, une 7mm Ultra Mag versus une .300 Ultra Mag. Reactions: Gb300wm, DHuffman and Mulligan. The .30-06, and its older brother the .30-03, were necked up and down to hold bullets of many different diameters—think about the famous .270 Winchester, .25-06 Remington and .35 Whelen—but Remington released their .280 Remington in 1957. With the 7mm-08 rounds, the top performing round only has 295 inches of bullet drop while another has 435 inches. Both great cartridges imo. The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do. Supporter . 270 vs 280 vs 280 AI vs 7mm Rem Mag Ammo Selection. Mag.• .375 Ruger vs. .375 H&H Magnum• 7mm-08 Remington vs. .280 Remington• .280 Remington vs. .280 Ackley Improved• 7mm vs. .30 Caliber• 6.5 Weatherby RPM vs. 6.5 PRC• .338 Win. were included in that article, but could not match the four short list cartridges in the area of availability of rifles and ammunition (read popularity). La balistique en quelques chiffres . quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? Effective Game Killing Cartridge of the month: 300 Winchester Magnum Inspiration Show all Inspiration 10 tips for hunters in quarantine Wild Berlin - Hunting in urban areas In this case 270 vs 280, I have no idea why the 280 was created. Another very underrated cartridge with limited demand. I am an idiot who needs sleep. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best … The 7mm Showdown: 7x57 vs. 7mm-08 Rem. As I pointed out on another thread , I have never been able to a .280 to shoot unless i loaded down quite abit. DrMike Post subject: Re: 7x57 or 7x57 AI. Comme le 7x57, au­quel il pro­pose une al­ter­na­tive plus puis­sante, uti­li­sable dans le boî­tier des Mau­ser 98, le 7x64 est pen­sé au­tour d’une balle de 11,3 g. Pour ce­la, l’avi­sé Bren­neke choi­sit de conser­ver le pas de rayure de 220 mm (8,8 inches). But this isn’t due to it being chambered in weak, older rifles. The 7x57 mm is neither wildly popular nor widely available, but neither is the .280 Rem. Witold Krzyżanowski . That’s not the point, or at least it shouldn’t be whenever one hears the 7mm vs 30 caliber argument. Mag.• .300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM• .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. Shaw and just have your Ruger rebarreled to another 7x57 or to 280. fredj, being the Sako maniac I am, it is on a M-75 action with a McMillan stock, Wiseman barrel, and Wiseman 'printing' of the action. quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? 7x57 vs 7mm-08 Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by plp, Jun 6, 2018. is a first-generation smokeless powder rimless bottlenecked rifle cartridge.It is known as .275 Rigby in the United Kingdom. Reactions: WVgoodguy22. All comments are welcome and appreciated. But if you enjoy the historical ties to cartridges, and your shots stay inside of 300 yards, there’s no reason to say no to the 7x57mm Mauser; it just doesn’t have the capability of the .280 Remington at longer ranges. The .280 reamer will not clean up the old neck. With the Hornady Custom .275 Rigby load 140-grain load moving at 2680 fps, it will still retain over 1,000 ft-lbs at the 400-yard mark. I've got months to find a round that shoots well out of my .308, but October will be here quick. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do. fyrewall. Steve. I load for my sister's 7x57, and RL-17 has given some great velocity in that case. 1941 270: 1895 7x57: _____ Ray. KSTEPHENS. Nous vous livrons également au drive sans-contact du Magasin de Nîmes. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. #2 Short actions chamberings and rifles are simply more accurate. _____ CDR3 Veteran, NRA Member. The Contestants. The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. It was subsequently adopted by several other … Cartridge Fight: .270 Win. Tuesday, October 27, 2020. EDIT: Also found a 7x57 test that I did on 150 grain bullets. I'm glad someone created the 6mm but it wasn't a necessity to fill a gap. The .280 is an excellent shooter, I don't recollect anyone here having one that doesn't love theirs, mine include. Twist rates for rifle barrels tend to differ slightly from manufacturer to manufacturer and from decade to decade (1:9-1:10), therefore, experimentation with the full range of 7mm bullet weights is often a requirement. One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. Whether shopping for a new rifle, for perusing the used shelves of your favorite gun shop, you may very well come across a rifle in one of these cartridges, so let’s do a bit of comparing and contrasting between them. Same cartridge, just different name. The 7x57 is about perfectly balanced, case size vs. bore. 280 Rem. Not trying to make any ground-breaking statements here, but something occurred to me when I was chrono-ing some loads yesterday, which is that my short-action … The 7x64 case is ever so slightly shorter than the .280 in case length dimensions but features slightly less body taper, evening out case capacity. Hoping to see it before our annual pilgramage to Kansas.... 11 October 2007, 04:16 . I have built customer's rifles in both calibers, shot them. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) … 280 Ack Imp. Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. It shot good as a 7x57 and still shoots good as a 280 Rem, but the difference is not noticable downrange, since I reload. Mine is now a .280 Imp-Imp, but it shot extemely well before the rechamber, I've only fired start loads to fire form in it so far, but even those shot mostly insdie of 2" shooting 5 shots groups as fast as I could reload, let it cool and do it again for 50 rounds! Thread Tools . Everything else being equal, what is the velocity differential between the 280 and 7x57 using reasonable maximum loads in a modern action? Some may say that the pair have both seen better days, with the 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved and 28 Nosler seeming more attractive to new hunters and shooters. The .35 I’d reserve for the last three, while the others require no more than the other options. AH ambassador. The 7-08 in place of the 7x57 loses nothing a deer would notice. I have a lovely Ruger Model 77 in 7 x 57 Mauser too, but thought just to be on the safe side to up gun from that to the 280. Hope you had a good Christmas. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Mar 2, 2013 #8 This is a bit like a 308 or 30/06 thread. The case capacity and velocities generated by the .280 Remington make is a great choice for those who want the capability to take elk at 400 yards, bear over bait at 40 yards, and everything in between. and owned them. Pitiful. Can you can get a 7x57 160 from 2,850 to 2,900 fps? Does the old 7x57 offer enough to make a hunter choose it over the .280? Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? The 7x57mm Mauser is the brainchild of Peter Paul Mauser, developed in 1892, and was adopted by the Spanish Military a year later. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Illustrations courtesy of Hornady March 05, 2013 By Brad Fitzpatrick. Wildcats be wildcats. Wage war across the galaxy with three unique and powerful races. This will be a tough one, as they are both excellent designs, with long histories of great field performance. _____ "So many rifles; so little time." The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. The 7-08 in place of the 7x57 loses nothing a deer would notice. vs. .340 Wby. Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 … Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 built by Mike McCabe (z1r). I had my Interarms Mark X in 7x57 rechambered to 280 Rem about 20 years ago and have regretted it ever since. 7mm-08 vs 270, some thoughts. To simplify the question, the .270 holds more powder and it can shoot the same weigh bullets. I had the .35 Whelan built some time ago for Elk hunting. Like the .280, the best powders for the 7x64 are those in the 4350 through to 4831 burn rate range. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year. At the turn of the 20th Century, with smokeless powder quickly replacing blackpowder, and jacketed bullets extending the terminal performance, the boundaries of acceptable cartridges were being developed and broken as technology progressed. Few would consider the 7x57 a good choice for elephant or Cape buffalo, but it does make a great choice for deer, elk, black bear and a good number of the African plains game species. emotional thing since I liked my 7x57 so much. .257 Rigby/7x57 Mauser.257 Rigby is what British gunmakers called the 7x57 at one time. Mag. Same dealer shows 4 options for 7x64 with 2 options in stock. In a longer tube the extra case capacity of the 280 allows more of the slow burning stuff. Why not just a .280? I've loaded the 175 in the 280 using 58 grains of 7828 for, SAAMI for the 7x57 is 51Kpsi. Be advised that the neck on the .280 is a good deal smaller in diameter than the 7x57. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac. I don't hand load, so would be reliant on factory ammunition. Thanks all, I appreciate it. Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. 7mm Wby Mag. Nov 14, 2017 Jul 23, 2019 … Seen more than a few taken with .270's and 30-06 though. There is a long list of cartridges that spawned from other cartridges that became phenomenal creations. If you look at Nolser manual #6 they use custom barrels. The 30-06 is a fine round and tough to beat as a do all cartridge. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. Nothing I've pointed it at in anger has gone more than a step or two.~Muir Reactions: Gb300wm, DHuffman and Mulligan. I've loaded for both and have owned several 280's, 3-4 7x57, but have only worked with 140's in each because there was no requirement for a 160 for my hunting.All these rifles had 22" barrels and ran the gamut from Remington Mountain rifles to full blown customs. In the hands of explorer/hunters like Walter Dalrymple Maitland Bell, known by his African nickname “Karamoja,” the 7x57mm Mauser—marketed in the U.K. as the .275 Rigby—would be used as an all-around cartridge, for animals as small as impala all the way up to elephant. Like @wbm says, fine … fyrewall. The 7x57 would seem to fit the bill, and I like the idea of using such an old chamfering, but would a 7x64 be a more pragmatic choice? The 7x57 produces velocities around 100 to 150fps slower than the .270 and .280 Remington and in doing so, tends to produce mild recoil (in suitably fitting rifles). Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge topped by a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. I used to shoot the 170 gr. I remember reading a post written by BobVZ on the our old message board explaining his results of converting a 7x57 to a 280 Remington. Factory specifications for a 7mm MAuser are worthless comparisons to the handloader who is the only person to realize the potentioal of this case size. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. Toute cartouche de calibre .30 fournit plus d'énergie qu'une cartouche de 7 mm comparable. flu-flu Membre Confirmé Messages: 192 Images: 2 Inscription: 03 Mai 2003 21:33. Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. The 7x57 is a nice upgrade to that. The answer is that one fits in to a short action and the other gives you about an extra 100 to 150 FPS±. Joined Feb 25, 2019 Messages 17 Location Colorado . Taking the nostalgia out of the equation, the .280 Remington makes more sense, or perhaps I should say is more versatile for the one-gun hunter. Which of these loads will serve you best the next time a deer enters the crosshairs? Planetcat, Jun 7, 2018. 7-08 vs 280 is about the same as the 308 vs 30-06 discussion. In their data the 280 has 26" barrel and 24" for the 270 and the 280 has alittle better velocity. One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. , slightly lower recoil and longer brass life joined: Sep 8, Messages. Bit like a 308 or 30/06 thread 7x57 vs 280 than a few taken with.270 and! Rebarreled to another 7x57 or 7x57 AI 4 9 twist barrel from low! For previous installments of our `` Head to Head '' series the.270 Winchester that has already! 11 October 2007, 04:16 'm glad someone created the 6mm Remington but it was used in 1890s... 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